Sarah Paine — Why Japan lost WWII (lecture & interview)

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3.2.26

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Japan lost WWII because it consistently confused operational excellence with strategic success: winning nearly every battle in China while losing the war, executing a flawless Pearl Harbor while creating an enemy hell bent on its destruction. Samurai culture of willpower + honor + loyalty was substituted for grand strategy. Broadly: Japan unable to define what “winning” meant, cut its losses (once its leadership was cornered into “death ground”), or coordinate between services.

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Sarah Paine is incredible lecturer and I loved this episode. Dwarkesh’s questions are a bit silly at times but highly recommend the video. In particular, learned about (1) Sun Tzu’s death’s ground, (2) operational vs. strategic success, (3) limited vs. unlimited objectives.

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Americans have a penchant for what I call half-court tennis, which is: they like to analyze international affairs and wars by focusing on Team America—what Americans did or didn't do—and then that explains causation in the world.

Really great snippets regarding limited vs. unlimited objectives:

If they have limited objectives, then by all means compromise with them, and negotiate away on what it is you want, just this little sliver of territory, or you want some preferential treatment? We can do that for you. But you’re talking about a world order here, whether it’s going to be based on laws increasingly, or these opposing spheres of influence.

In the Gulf War, Bush Sr. fought a limited war for a limited objective. The limited objective was: get Iraqi troops out of Kuwait and restore the Kuwaiti government. Those were the two really big things, and then call it a day when you’ve done those things. That was an incredibly successful war, and it went to our heads. So then we try to do the total makeover of another country and excuse me, what right does one country have to do a total makeover on another country?

[Japan] had some vague ambitions and wanted to take advantage of opportunities. But there’s no definition of what ‘win’ in this war is. How much territory should Japan take? And then call it a day.”

What does win mean? For us, it was put Japan back in its box, right? But this is a whole problem for Japan. What’s win? Or this country in Afghanistan, what’s win? Is it booting Osama bin Laden out of Afghanistan? Once that happens, it’s a day. Is it overthrowing the Taliban at a particular period, or is it trying to turn the whole place into a democracy? Okay, those are all radically different things, but you need to make up your mind what it’s going to be.

Operational vs strategic success:

There’s a tendency to equate operational with strategic success. Operational success is “I win this battle here and now.” Strategic success is, “okay, we’re in a war for some reason.” What is the reason you’re in the war? Japan’s reasons for being in China had to do with containing communist expansion and also stabilizing the place so that they could make money out of business. So that’s your strategic objective. It’s not your operational one, but the Japanese Samurai are equating the two saying if I take this hill somehow it’s automatically going to deliver the strategic objective. And in fact, they won most of the battles in China, but they lost that war.

Focusing on just the operational level is the basis for this ill-founded optimism with which the Japanese just took territory after territory without saying, “Hey, what about the cost of actually occupying these places?”

Pearl Harbor. It’s an A+ military operation. They sink everything… Except it turns an absolutely isolationist country into one hell-bent on coming after Japan, and that would be called a strategic disaster.”

Willpower replacing strategy:

This emphasis on willpower and just trying harder, it denigrates strategy.

There’s a lack of grand strategy. What’s grand strategy? It’s integrating all the instruments of national power, not just the army, or the army and the navy, which is what the Japanese are trying to do. But all instruments of national power.

On death ground:

"Once the Japanese are failing in battle, operational failure, they are on death ground. What does that mean? Death ground means the only way you survive is if you fight harder. This is what's going on in Ukraine right now, is that when you decide you're going to annihilate an entire culture, you put people on death ground and then they have very few choices on what they do next.

I suspect this is what the Japanese thought they were doing in the Rape of Nanjing and other atrocities. That they were going to do these horrifying things and that would break the will of the other side. Be careful whom you put on death ground.

If you're dealing with even a failing state, which Russia was—Stalin had shot so many of his officers in the thirties and then he inflicted a famine on Ukraine—but when the Nazis came in and they were going to wipe out not only the Russian government but also the Russian people, you will superglue people, government, and military, and you will transform a failing state into a lethal adversary.